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The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association (NCFA Canada) is a financial innovation ecosystem that provides education, market intelligence, industry stewardship, networking and funding opportunities and services to thousands of community members and works closely with industry, government, partners and affiliates to create a vibrant and innovative fintech and funding industry in Canada. Decentralized and distributed, NCFA is engaged with global stakeholders and helps incubate projects and investment in fintech, alternative finance, crowdfunding, peer-to-peer finance, payments, digital assets and tokens, blockchain, cryptocurrency, regtech, and insurtech sectors. Join Canada's Fintech & Funding Community today FREE! Or become a contributing member and get perks. For more information, please visit: www.ncfacanada.org
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NCFA Canada | Mahi Sall | Sep 20, 2022

The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association of Canada (NCFA), true to its mission of providing education, industry stewardship, networking, growth, and funding opportunities for innovative financial technologies and related sectors, is pleased to launch a brand new thought leadership series on Open Banking led by Berlin-based NCFA ambassador and independent expert in Fintech-Bank Partnerships Mahi Sall.
NCFA is proudly contributing this thought leadership series to help shape a system that will bring profound changes in how financial services will be created, distributed, and consumed in Canada over decades to come. Our hope is that Canada’s Open Banking system will improve economic outcomes, improve market efficiencies and competitiveness, and enable consumers to access new and innovative financial services in a way that is secure, efficient, and consumer-centric.
The series is called ‘Canada’s Open Banking Journey’ and aims to aggregate international and domestic perspectives of Open Banking/Finance expert practitioners from around the globe to advance dialogues, key considerations, and explore potential solutions for the development of a made in Canada open banking regime with the following timeline:

“Banks should not try to circumvent the intended opening-up of formerly closed banking landscapes and data to the competition”
-- EY’s Dr. Francesco Pisani and Dr. Alexander Christoph
Mahi Sall: Please introduce yourselves and organization and highlight how you relate to Open Banking.
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: We are Dr. Francesco Pisani, Senior Manager Strategy and Transactions | EMEIA Deputy Startup Leader and Dr. Alexander Christoph, Partner |Transaction Strategy & Execution at EY Germany.
EY is a leading advisor in the financial services sector with years of experience in working with incumbents and fintechs on topics related to Open Banking and alike. Digital and fintech are the core of our work. Thanks to our deep expertise and the possibility to offer end to end services, we provide advisory services that help our clients make reasoned strategic decisions. We frequently publish thought leadership articles on topics related to fintech and digital banking ecosystems in books, industry magazines and more. We constantly foster the exchange within the financial service community at the local as well as the international level by hosting podcasts, organizing events and meetings among the relevant parties in the ecosystem, engaging in working groups, supporting innovation hubs, and directly working with the most inspiring personalities in the field. Over time, we have contributed to the success of multiple organizations and empowered various policy makers with the right knowledge to continue enhancing the development of open banking.
Mahi Sall: Common Rules represent a key component of Open Banking System Design, with the premise that they create a level playing field which eliminates the need for bilateral arrangements between Open Banking participants.
What situations would call for bilateral arrangements in an Open Banking environment that thrives on common rules?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Open Banking typically builds on the notion that banking and transaction data belongs to the customer who should have unrestricted access to it. Standardized interfaces should facilitate typical use cases for customers and Small and Medium Enterprises (SMEs) to allow for them to access their data and automate simple use cases.
However, besides standardized access it might be viable for two parties to align on specific user experiences, use cases and integrations that rely on additional functionality – not data. Examples include embedded finance use cases, e. g. in-car payments.
Mahi Sall: Another key component of Open Banking System Design is the Accreditation Process. Canada’s Advisory Committee on Open Banking recommended to exempt federally regulated banks from the accreditation process, and similar consideration for provincially regulated financial institutions to be discussed.
What major frustration points relative to the accreditation process can be anticipated and how to address them?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Accreditation should be based on clearly defined criteria that should be designed in a way to facilitate easy access for fintechs and startups and yet provide for the necessary protection for customer data, while not precluding the possibility to generate value for the final users. If requirements are too strict, they will prevent competition and finally slow down innovation. It might make sense to set up “sandboxes” to facilitate fast innovations without requiring strict regulatory requirements.
“When too strict, accreditation requirements will prevent competition and slow down innovation.”
Mahi Sall: The third key component of Open Banking System Design are Technical Specifications & Standards with two approaches currently dominating the landscape: single standard approach (e.g. UK, Australia) and multiple standards (e.g. US, EU). Canada’s Advisory Committee left both approaches open for exploration.
Can you speak to the advantages and shortcomings of these approaches?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: While the UK model defines data structures and functionalities in great detail for the TPPs and banks to implement, the EU model relies on industry standards to establish a set of commonly used standards.
The advantages of the EU model are clearly the opportunity for large players to reuse existing implementations and use that as a basis for a new standard. On the other hand, it leads to a heterogenous landscape of “standardized interfaces” and makes it hard to establish “pan-European” value propositions.
The UK model on the other hand defines a common starting ground for everybody with clearly defined data structures and functionalities. However, it might be limiting innovative forces.
Mahi Sall: In the early days of Open Banking some European banks provided in addition to APIS a Modified Customer Interface (MCI) as alternative means for third party providers (TPPs) to get access to customer data. Would you foresee the need for Canadian banks to deploy fallback options to existing APIs?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: API technology is well established today, so we would see no need for fallback solutions such as “screen scraping” or other means of access.
Mahi Sall: Please speak about lessons learned in terms of Open Banking test designs and implementation.
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Every situation if seen in detail is somehow special and should be treated as such. However, some general principles still apply. Having an open and constructive discussion among the parties involved that is supported by a good documentation has revealed to be a principle that could be applied to almost every similar circumstance. Furthermore, the right planning of resources and an agreed as well as feasible roadmap are paramount for the achievement of major milestones.
Mahi Sall: As in other jurisdictions, financial inclusion is high on Canada’s Open Banking agenda. Please share examples where Open Banking failed to deliver on this metric. What are some of the key lessons learned that Canada could benefit from?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Open Banking alone should not be seen as the key to financial inclusion, but more as an enabler. While Open Banking might help to tear down some of the barriers that prevent access to financial services to part of the population, there are other structural as well as societal problems that might need to be addressed as well to achieve financial inclusion, especially in developed countries.
Mahi Sall: Chief among the factors affecting the take-off of Open Banking is low adoption by consumers. What could Canada do differently than other jurisdictions in order to pre-empt this risk?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Adoption comes with convincing use cases for customers. Open Banking can hardly be promoted on its own. In order to promote Open Banking as technologies, regulation and communication should be straightforward and clear. Use cases should be developed that demonstrate to the future users how it makes their lives more convenient and better.
Mahi Sall: Drawing upon your observations, what are some of the quick wins in terms of Open Banking use cases that banks and fintechs should prioritize rolling out?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Most successful use cases that immediately show a convincing value proposition to customers are account aggregation and personal financial management (PFM). In addition, financial planning and wealth management will be attractive for customers.
On the SME side, integrations with accounting apps/ packages and tax apps/ packages can be attractive as well.
Mahi Sall: What role does talent play in developing a thriving Open Banking system?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Talent has a significant impact on the success of Open Banking – especially on the fintech side. On the tech side this is obvious, but also on the product side, Canada needs visionaries that can develop and sell value propositions to the customers.
Mahi Sall: Speak about Open Banking limitations and the most common misconceptions people have about it?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Customers might develop a view where with Open Banking in place, everybody can see their bank data. This might prevent them from accepting modified T&Cs that come with OB regulations and adopt the new use cases that will be developed on that basis.
“API technology is well-established today, so no need for fallback options”
Mahi Sall: What does Open Banking mean to banks and fintechs, and how does it affect the relationship between the two?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: In the early days of Open Banking, banks would be afraid that with APIs being in place, fintechs would be able to lure people away from bank web sites and apps to their own apps and finally take over the client relationship. However, experience shows that this is not the case. Banks today use fintechs to integrate their financial products into other value chains and use cases they were not able to address earlier.
Mahi Sall: How could banks and TPPs best prepare for Open Banking and extract the most value out of it?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: Banks should not try to circumvent the intended opening-up of formerly closed banking landscapes and data to the competition. Instead, they should try to formulate their own value statement and strategy around OB – what use cases are they foreseeing for their customers, what apps and integrations will they be delivering to keep customers and SMEs happy?
Mahi Sall: Given the very tight schedule of Canada’s Open Banking roadmap, where do you think the balance must be struck to meet deadlines without significant trade-offs?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: It might help to go back to the main motivations that pushed such agenda and use them as guiding principles to prioritize based on the value of each achievement while still considering the overall picture and the circumstance. For instance, it is almost impossible to think about relaxing security standards in banking, and there are good reasons for that, but what if the environment allows that and the objectives to be met are not related to security matters?
Mahi Sall: What must be thought of and accounted for at this early stage of Open Banking in Canada in order to ensure compatibility and interoperability at regional/international level?
Dr. Francesco Pisani/ Dr. Alexander Christoph: The API should be planned to support multiple currencies and languages. In addition, it should be able to accept digital certificates from multiple Certificate Authorities.
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About EY
Dr. Francesco Pisani
Dr. Alexander Christoph
Mahi Sall is an Ambassador of the National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association of Canada “NCFA”, and an Expert on Fintech-Bank Partnerships. He is based in Berlin, Germany.
The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association (NCFA Canada) is a financial innovation ecosystem that provides education, market intelligence, industry stewardship, networking and funding opportunities and services to thousands of community members and works closely with industry, government, partners and affiliates to create a vibrant and innovative fintech and funding industry in Canada. Decentralized and distributed, NCFA is engaged with global stakeholders and helps incubate projects and investment in fintech, alternative finance, crowdfunding, peer-to-peer finance, payments, digital assets and tokens, blockchain, cryptocurrency, regtech, and insurtech sectors. Join Canada's Fintech & Funding Community today FREE! Or become a contributing member and get perks. For more information, please visit: www.ncfacanada.org
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The Compliance Lady | Sep 9, 2022
𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗟𝗗 𝗕𝗔𝗡𝗞 𝘃. 𝗙𝗔𝗧𝗙: It is always interesting to come across a study that critiques FATF’s work. In a recent report the World Bank takes a closer look at National Risk Assessments (NRAs). For those not familiar with NRAs, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) requires nations to demonstrate an understanding of the money laundering risks they face in the country by conducting National Risk Assessments.
The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association (NCFA Canada) is a financial innovation ecosystem that provides education, market intelligence, industry stewardship, networking and funding opportunities and services to thousands of community members and works closely with industry, government, partners and affiliates to create a vibrant and innovative fintech and funding industry in Canada. Decentralized and distributed, NCFA is engaged with global stakeholders and helps incubate projects and investment in fintech, alternative finance, crowdfunding, peer-to-peer finance, payments, digital assets and tokens, blockchain, cryptocurrency, regtech, and insurtech sectors. Join Canada's Fintech & Funding Community today FREE! Or become a contributing member and get perks. For more information, please visit: www.ncfacanada.org
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NCFA Canada | Mahi Sall | Sep 12, 2022

The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association of Canada (NCFA), true to its mission of providing education, industry stewardship, networking, growth, and funding opportunities for innovative financial technologies and related sectors, is pleased to launch a brand new thought leadership series on Open Banking led by Berlin-based NCFA ambassador and independent expert in Fintech-Bank Partnerships Mahi Sall.
NCFA is proudly contributing this thought leadership series to help shape a system that will bring profound changes in how financial services will be created, distributed, and consumed in Canada over decades to come. Our hope is that Canada’s Open Banking system will improve economic outcomes, improve market efficiencies and competitiveness, and enable consumers to access new and innovative financial services in a way that is secure, efficient, and consumer-centric.
The series is called ‘Canada’s Open Banking Journey’ and aims to aggregate international and domestic perspectives of Open Banking/Finance expert practitioners from around the globe to advance dialogues, key considerations, and explore potential solutions for the development of a made in Canada open banking regime with the following timeline:

“The future of Finance is Open.”
-- Francois Lasne, Advisory Board Member of The Berlin Group
Mahi Sall: Who is Francois Lasne?
Francois Lasne: I am an advisory board member of The Berlin Group, the largest Open Banking framework in Europe (NextGenPSD2) implemented by more than 75% of European banks. I am also a member of the French API Thinking Collective where I head the API Governance workstream. Currently working at Ingenico to launch a disruptive Payment Platform as a Service (PpaaS) for instore and online merchants. Prior to that I was director of Open API and Open Banking at Finastra.
Mahi Sall: Common Rules represent a key component of Open Banking System Design, with the premise that they create a level playing field which eliminates the need for bilateral arrangements between Open Banking participants.
What situations would call for bilateral arrangements in an Open Banking environment that thrives on common rules?
Francois Lasne: Innovation runs fast, faster than regulation. Setting up a regulatory framework that rests on a solid foundation helps stimulate the creation of an ecosystem. That allows fintechs to invest as they will be able to connect / address a larger set of actors.
That said, innovation should not be blocked. If a fintech and a bank have a great idea that goes beyond the scope of regulation, why stop it? A new business idea or new use cases should not be stopped because others are not involved. Fair enough, it gives a competitive advantage, then up to the bank to negotiate if this feature would be exclusive or not, offered for free or not.
It is also important to learn by doing, and once a learning has been ‘validated’, integrate it back into the regulatory framework. Between the UK and the EU there are a lot of differences like Product Information, Branch Locator (mandatory in the UK, not required in France), etc. Shouldn’t a Branch Locator API be allowed in France?
In Europe you have the PSD2 regulatory scope with some value-added services not yet regulated like loan account support. Up to the bank and fintech to propose those services for free or paid. Here the market will make the difference.
Mahi Sall: Another key component of Open Banking System Design is the Accreditation Process. Canada’s Advisory Committee on Open Banking recommended to exempt federally regulated banks from the accreditation process, and similar consideration for provincially regulated financial institutions to be discussed.
What major frustration points relative to the accreditation process can be anticipated and how to address them?
Francois Lasne: Accreditation provides trust and limits fraud. The counterpart of trust is validation, and the usual pitfall of validation is process and bureaucracy.
In the EU, the European Central Bank (ECB) delegated the accreditation process to National Competent Authorities (NCA) i.e the national Central Banks of member countries. The process is enforced by eIDAS certificates and requires NCAs to have the capability to warn for revocation of certification.
The process flow is summarized below (Saltedge illustration):

In this process we can see that several parties are involved, and so it requires a proper alignment of the stars. It is also very important to be able to distribute Test Certificates and define happy flow as well as negative flow (wrong certificate, revocation scenario).
Frustration usually happens due to unavailability of the actors, the test environment, or/and a lack of fluidity of the process.
Mahi Sall: The third key component of Open Banking System Design are Technical Specifications & Standards with two approaches currently dominating the landscape: single standard approach (e.g. UK, Australia) and multiple standards (e.g. US, EU). Canada’s Advisory Committee left both approaches open for exploration.
Can you speak to the advantages and shortcomings of these approaches?
Francois Lasne: A single standard looks like a much simpler option. But this standard needs to be smart. Open Banking UK is very smart, with good coverage, good documentation. Having a single standard makes things clearer for TPPs, the road is paved and we have directions. It also simplifies the implementation.
Best is when beyond the standard there is a reference implementation or at least a TCK (Test Compliance Kit) as you have for instance for OpenIdConnect. This guarantees less interpretation.
On the other hand, having a single standard puts a lot of pressure on the regulator to provide good API, good documentation and so on. Open Banking UK quality has a cost.
The EU approach was focused on the legal aspects. This led to multiple standard implementations with a fragmentation of the API framework (STET, Berlin Group , Polish API ) and interpretation of the laws (just looking at the number of questions to the EBA - European Banking Authority).
Canada needs to learn from this. There is no point in creating yet another standard. I would encourage Canada to leverage what exists either FDX, Berlin Group or Australia API. Berlin Group being an open-source standard looks more straightforward, so I would recommend a fork (aka a copy), better a collaboration.
Mahi Sall: In the early days of Open Banking some European banks provided in addition to APIs a Modified Customer Interface (MCI) as alternative means for third party providers (TPPs) to get access to customer data. Would you foresee the need for Canadian banks to deploy fallback options to existing APIs?
Francois Lasne: Master Yoda says: “Do or Do not, there is no try”. Fallback is not a good option, meaning that it is complexifying integration and entering into a gray zone. As a regulator I don’t want to evaluate the quality of fallback options, as it would be a case-by-case study. This will be breaking the fluidity and adoption of API. You might end up with everyone doing fallback, which in a way would be defeating the purpose of regulation.
Mahi Sall: What are some of the lessons you’ve learned in terms of Open Banking test designs and implementation.
Francois Lasne: As we deal with API and testing, both parties i.e. producers (Banks) and consumers (TPPs) need to be ready on time. What we’ve learned is that testing needs to be prepared in advance, especially the security infrastructure like certificates as well as the business domain. There were also huge differences between “Sandbox” and production data. Testing in production with a real production system is always better. What is the point of code against a sandbox replying to a static response? Better having an agreed scenario on dedicated test users and accounts, and then no surprise when doing the production. It is so frustrating to have everything working with a sandbox, only to have to redo all the testing campaigns against the production environment.
Mahi Sall: Drawing upon your observations, what are some of the quick wins in terms of Open Banking use cases that banks and fintechs should prioritize rolling out?
Francois Lasne: Let’s learn to walk before running, so starting with the basics i.e. account information data (all kinds of accounts, no need to restrict) will enable a lot of use cases e.g. cashback , account aggregation, scoring and so on. Then payments, both immediate and cross border targeting for sure reduction of cost. Having basic static data like product information is great as well.
Mahi Sall: Speak about Open Banking limitations and the most common misconceptions people have about it?
Francois Lasne: One of the biggest misconceptions about Open Banking is that people believe that their data will be shared and resold as Google is doing whether or not they consent. Open Banking is more about users taking back ownership of their data that banks hold. With Open Banking users are the legitimate owners of their data, and it is only with their consent that it gets shared with providers of their choice.
Also people do not see the benefits of Open Banking because they are used to paying with credit cards. Despite the prefix ‘open’, Open Banking is actually much more secure than credit cards for making payments online.
Lastly, people fail to see an economic incentive. Here merchants should promote Open Banking by offering discounts, a way of passing on to customers the savings on the fees they’ve made, which otherwise would have been paid to card network providers.
Open Banking enables banks to externalize their innovation labs to fintechs for free, at zero risk!
Mahi Sall: What does Open Banking mean to banks and fintechs, and how does it affect the relationship between the two?
Francois Lasne: Banks might see Open Banking as a threat, as they need to provide ‘their’ data for free. But what we have seen in the EU is that Open Banking was a fabulous driver for innovation. All banks now in the EU provide account aggregation as part of their mobile apps. Most of them are pushing new services like cashback based on Open Banking, statement categorization while some are pushing green indicators and so on.
Also a lot of corporate flow goes to API for ERP connection. API has to be seen by banks as a new vector of distribution of their services. It has become the new virtual branch, the same way as mobile.
For TPPs we can see 2 approaches:
Sitting in the middle are the aggregators. These are playing a very important role because as a TPP I would rather go to an aggregator who has set up all the plumbing instead of trying to connect directly with all banks on my own.
Mahi Sall: How could banks and TPPs best prepare for Open Banking and extract the most value out of it?
Francois Lasne: Banks need to have an API framework in place, run tests and provide support. Launching an API is like launching a new product. We all know that adaptation (so called bug) is required at the beginning, so be ready for some support activity. The same goes with onboarding as the onboarding might not be fully standardized.
TPPs being usually smaller are more agile and able to adapt, they will chase banks. Do not focus on a particular one, instead target multiple Banks as one might get stuck for a while. Starting several threads would be a safe path.
Do not reinvent the wheel, leverage previous experiences.
Mahi Sall: Given the very tight schedule of Canada’s Open Banking roadmap, where do you think the balance must be struck to meet deadlines without significant trade-offs?
Francois Lasne: One key big accelerator would be to adopt or partner with an already existing big standard i.e. Berlin Group, OB UK or FDX. This would significantly reduce the design phase, although a bit of adaptation will be required, but the basis and documentation is solid.
Mahi Sall: What must be thought of and accounted for at this early stage of Open Banking in Canada in order to ensure compatibility and interoperability at regional/international level?
Francois Lasne: Think big!
Do not focus only on regional payment schemes but make the framework flexible enough so that it can be extended. Then you may provide a discovery mechanism so that by code the TPP can discover whether or not this bank supports this feature.
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Mahi Sall is an Ambassador of the National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association of Canada “NCFA”, and an Expert on Fintech-Bank Partnerships. He is based in Berlin, Germany.
The National Crowdfunding & Fintech Association (NCFA Canada) is a financial innovation ecosystem that provides education, market intelligence, industry stewardship, networking and funding opportunities and services to thousands of community members and works closely with industry, government, partners and affiliates to create a vibrant and innovative fintech and funding industry in Canada. Decentralized and distributed, NCFA is engaged with global stakeholders and helps incubate projects and investment in fintech, alternative finance, crowdfunding, peer-to-peer finance, payments, digital assets and tokens, blockchain, cryptocurrency, regtech, and insurtech sectors. Join Canada's Fintech & Funding Community today FREE! Or become a contributing member and get perks. For more information, please visit: www.ncfacanada.org
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